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    STEVE on April 20, 2021 at 5:09 pm #20615

    Hi David;
    I recommend spending the extra to get what Michelin calls its “Airstop” tubes. Another company calls theirs Leakguard.
    These tubes won’t leak, unlike the less expensive ones.
    This saves time and banged up knees from having to refill the tires every month or so.
    I’m assuming the AD you’re referring to is Piper 2020-24-05, calling for an inspection of the inner section of the L and R wing spar for corrosion.
    The area can be inspected initially with a flexible borescope. And that will tell if there’s corrosion.
    If there’s any visual evidence of corrosion, you’ll have to wait for the inspection panel kit and do the full inspection.
    There is a provision to do the inspection using a borescope but I believe the AD requires the use of a 10 power magnifying borescope. Those are pretty expensive and unless there’s a shop nearby that works on a lot of turbine engines, you won’t be able to complete the inspection using the borescope method.
    Have you taken the fuel tanks out? It’s a pretty common practice to comply with Piper SB 1006 which calls for an inspection for corrosion behind each fuel tank.
    Removing the tanks provides a lot of access to the front side of the spar and does open up limited access to the rear spar. I’ve attached the bulletin.
    Keep on,
    One of these days you will be aviating.
    Steve

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    David Sowder on April 20, 2021 at 4:14 pm #20614

    Steve,
    So far the prop has been sent to the shop, carb is off to be exchanged/rebuilt, new fuel drains installed, oil filter checked (nothing found), have one rebuilt mag and one electronic mag to install, Tailbeacon ready to install.

    Next step is tires and tubes, check fuel system, have new pumps to replace old ones.

    Hopefully prop back Thursday, and carb soon.

    IA wants AD completed, but there isn’t any inspection kits anywhere to be found.

    David

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    STEVE on April 1, 2021 at 12:51 pm #20587

    David;
    I like the way you’re thinking. I would strongly urge the owner agree to removing a cylinder ck cam/lifters for corrosion.
    One place corrosion is showing up is at the steel rear wing spar fitting. I’ve attached SB 1244 that addresses this.
    Take pics, write me an article on the steps you and your IA take to resurrect a Cherokee that’s been sitting for 22 years.
    Let me know how else I can help.

    Steve

    Attachments:
    • PiperSB1244WingSparCorrosion.pdf
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    David Sowder on April 1, 2021 at 11:23 am #20584

    Steve,

    Last flown 12/31/1999, last started 2003.Sitting north a couple of miles from Indianapolis in a hanger. Overall, looks good as the previous owner took care of it. Borescope of the cylinders look good no corrosion at all.

    Don’t know the specifics, but the owner passed away suddenly and this is part of his estate. Going through the paperwork and checking ADs now. Plan is to go over it with a fine tooth comb. Mags were dead, but didn’t trouble shoot. New owner has agreed to replace/rebuild mags. Talked him into pulling a cylinder to look deeper inside the engine. If it looks good, replace oil/filter, check screens and filter for deposits and run the engine. Door seal shot, replacing it, the rubber components don’t look that bad. Engine mounts were OK, but thinking they should be replaced. Tires/tubes were a no brainer. Struts show no sign of leakage.

    Next step is engine and pull all the inspection plates and just look and verify that it’ll fly safely. He’s taking it back to West Virginia. I think I have an IA lined up to get the annual complete, but those guys are a busy lot.

    David

    Sitting that long corrosion is a major concern

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    STEVE on April 1, 2021 at 10:39 am #20581

    Hi David;
    Welcome.
    I’m Steve and I am an A & P.
    When you say sitting a while. Where? How long?
    Why did the owner stop flying it?
    As I’m sure you know, sitting is the worst thing an owner can do to his airplane engine.
    Without regular running the possibility of rust in the engine goes up.
    And once the local birds (and mice) figure out that there is shelter in that airframe they move in.
    Engine wise, what’s it look like? It there an oil filter on the engine? or just a screen?
    What’s your overall impression of the airplane?
    Steve

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    David Sowder on April 1, 2021 at 9:39 am #20580

    Hello All,

    Just wanted to say “Hello”.
    Working on a PA28-140 that’s been sitting for a while and joined for the expertise. All comments are welcomed!!
    David Sowder A&P

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