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    STEVE on April 23, 2025 at 9:15 am #23083

    Hi Andy,
    That’s great. While it’s uncowled, I suggest you ask your mechanic to look over the rest of the installation–wires for security and appearance (nowhere on the load (big) wires should be darkened. 
    And check the alternator to make sure the segments are secure.

    Thanks for getting back to me.

    Steve

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    Andrew on April 22, 2025 at 6:22 pm #23082

    Looks like it was the belt. I’ll know more tomorrow. You just can’t see it with the cowling on. Earlier models allowed you to easily see the belt.

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    STEVE on April 21, 2025 at 8:14 am #23079

    Hey Andy,
    Best of luck and trouble shooting expertise.

    We always appreciate an update.

    Best,
    Steve

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    Andrew on April 20, 2025 at 5:47 pm #23076

    Thank you Steve,
    I’ve got a small team taking a look at it tomorrow. I’ll keep you posted.
    Andy

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    STEVE on April 19, 2025 at 1:10 pm #23075

    Hi Andrew,
    Yes, that’s disconcerting, especially if it’s an intermittant problem.

    On a cascade of easiest to most difficult troubleshooting ladder, I would look very closely at the wiring at the alternator; are the crimps on the terminals secure; Is the alternator ground wire securely connected; are there any “hot spots” in the wiring–spots that are discolored–look where wires are clamped in the wire run.
    While at the alternator, check to see that that segments — pulley end; middle, and wire connection end are secure and tight against each other. There have been service bulletins stating that the through bolts were not tightened to the correct torque during final assembly. 
    Do you know how many hours are on that alternator? 
    There are definitive trouble shooting instructions in the service manual. I’ve scanned a few pages; they’re attached to my reply.
    The 60 amp alternator is Prestolite alternator
    The 90 amp alternator is a Ford alternator.
    The puzzling part is the system was restored once when you cycled the alternator switch, but that didn’t restore it later.
    That logically could indicate that there’s a problem with the alternator switch. The part number for the switch is 688 296–this on off switch is used throughout the Piper single engine line; there’s a cap on the switch face to ID the circuit.

    You can see a picture of the 688 296 switch here: https://www.ebay.com/p/1729757859.
    It’s a two position (on off) switch with two connection options-left and right. I suggest you or your mechanic check to see that the wires are tight, and that the connectors at the back of the switch are secure. If one side is secure and the other isn’t, you can swap the wires from one side to the other.

    I’ve just outlined some of the steps I would take if I were running down an intermittant fault like this. If it’s one of the things I’ve noted, count yourself lucky. Sometimes the TS struggle boils down to testing each wire individually. 

    Good luck, and let me know what you find, or if you need further suggestions.

    Steve 

     

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    Andrew on April 17, 2025 at 5:22 pm #23070

    I own a 2005 PA-32R 301T with an Avidyne EX5000 MFD. Today and once about two weeks ago the CAS/Alert message came on that the Alternator was not functioning properly. . During the first instance I returned to the airport I had departed from, switched the alternator on and off a few times, then tried resetting the circuit breaker (it had not popped) and the alternator seemed to work properly. Two weeks later and after a trip from Albany, NY to Punta Gorda, Florida with numerous stops and no instances of this problem, I again today had a similar problem and could not clear it up after cycling the alternator on and off, and then popping the circuit breaker. I do have a standby alternator and used that to finish the flight from Albany, NY to Burlington, VT.  I had read in an earlier forum that some owners had new alternators installed only to find out it was a worn circuit breaker. In another instance it wasn’t the circuit breaker or the alternator, I have tried to attach a picture, but in the event it is not visible here is what is showing on the MFD:

    Electrical
    ALT 0A
    BUS 22.8  (and decreasing when the main alternator is on)
    BATT -13

    Anyone had similar experiences? Any guidance that could be provided would be GREATLY appreciated.

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