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Home » Topics » Main Forum » PIPER MODELS » PA-28 » Arrow II in transition light during flight. Gear is lowering.

Arrow II in transition light during flight. Gear is lowering.

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    STEVE on June 1, 2024 at 10:19 am #22551

    Hi Brian;
    Sorry I didn’t reply earlier.

    The single frame is too small; but thanks for sending it.

    We’re not yet equipped to post videos on this website.

    Glad you got the system working again.

    Steve

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    Brian Sprowl on May 24, 2024 at 12:28 pm #22545

    If you send me an email, I can send the full video if you like. Thank you sir.
    Brian

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    STEVE on May 24, 2024 at 7:39 am #22543

    Hi Brian;
    Good, thanks for letting me know.

    My question is: can you send me a larger file of the gear hanging out–I’d love to put that picture in the magazine but I need at least 500 KB.

    Thanks,
    Steve

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    Brian Sprowl on May 21, 2024 at 3:44 pm #22535

    I figured it out sir. It was the emergency release mechanism. It was bleeding through due to tension on the check valve. Thank you sir!

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    STEVE on May 21, 2024 at 3:13 pm #22534

    Hi Brian;
    Can you send a higher resolution picture of the picture you attached to this thread??
    The one that shows the gear lowering in flight?

    Thanks
    Steve

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    Brian Sprowl on September 29, 2023 at 9:58 am #22269

    Thank you so very much sir! I appreciate you!

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    STEVE on September 29, 2023 at 8:53 am #22268

    Hi Brian,
    Based on your description, I believe you have two problems.

    First, the gear is held in the up position by fluid pressure acting on pistons in each landing gear actuator. When you gear sags down, that means there is a leak somewhere in one of these cylinders. There could also be a leak past one of the valves in the powerpack (the gear up check valve)  but I’d start looking at one of the cylinder actuators.

    These can be tested for leakage by putting your airplane on jacks, then plugging the fluid gear up and gear down hoses at one of the actuators. Then put the gear up. If the other two gear legs stay up, then the leak is past the o ring seals in the actuating cylinder you’ve removed from the system. If the gear still leaks down after you’ve removed one cylinder from the system, re-connect that cylinder and do the “block off” procedure on the next cylinder. Repeat until you’ve located the leaking cylinder.

    You may find that more than one cylinder is leaking.
     
    These are relatively easy to rebuild; it might be worth your time to rebuild all three to get them all back to square one condition. The instructions are in Chapter 6 of the service manual..

    If isolating the gears to see if the actuating cylinders are the problem; and are going through the isolation procedure with all three cylinders and the gear still falls out of the wells, the problem is the gear up check valve in the power pack.

    The other problem I see is a malfunctioning pressure switch. This is a simple on-off switch activated to off at a pressure of 1400 psi; and on at a pressure of 1100 psi. The part number of this switch is 587 847. List price for new is over $2100. I’ve located used serviceable one at a couple of salvage yards for around $500. Reputable salvage yards such as Preferred AirParts and Wentworth Aircraft, to name advertisers in our magazines offer a short period where the part can be returned for a refund.

    If you mechanic is handy, he will be able to test this switch using a nitrogen bottle to supply the pressure and an ohm meter to determine when the switch is opening and closing.

    Let me know what you find.

    Best,
    Steve
     

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    Brian Sprowl on September 29, 2023 at 5:44 am #22266

    Hello everyone!
    I have a 1973 Arrow II and I keep getting a transition light during flight. It starts about 20-25 minutes into flight. The left gear starts to drop then the right (pictured). The powerpack then kicked in and raised the
    gear. It stayed up for about 5 minutes then got the transition light again and the same sequence left then right then the nose gear just started to drop and the powerpack kicked in and raised the gear. as it continued about every 5 minutes or so the gear got lower and lower and included all three.
    Any ideas about where to start? The powerpack was replaced in 2010 and serviced again in 2012. 
    Thank you for your help! Safe flying!

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