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    CHARLIE MUELLER on October 14, 2024 at 12:30 pm #22790

    Ok thank you Steve-

    I am in Michigan about to fly it back to Naples Florida where I live and where the engine was rebuilt (Sebring, Florida). Can I do that ie is it airworthy? This is the first Annual since overhaul one year ago.

    I see the valve discoloring but I cannot discern the corrosion pitting on the wall? I’ll get back to you on compression question- the aircraft is still in the shop.

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    STEVE on October 14, 2024 at 12:11 pm #22789

    Hi Charlie,

    I can see the slightly uneven coloring on the exhaust valve. I’ve attached a poster that’s helpful in diagnosing exhaust valve problems. The poster suggests that an uneven ness is the first stage of the burnt exhaust valve process. What does the compression numbers show? Can you hear hissing from air escaping past that exhaust valve during a compression test?? 
    I believe I’d take more borescope pictures of that valve, and compare it to additional pictures taken at annual or 100 hour intervals. I would probably do the first additional photo after 50 hours. 

    The cylinder wall rust is unacceptable. Since it’s at the 9 o’clock position, that seems to indicate that the engine was in a prop shaft up position at one time; as it seems as though this is the only position that a cylinder on a built up engine would have that position exposed to moisture. Typically, engines are built with the crankshaft flange down while mounted on an engine stand. 

    I feel that the #3 cylinder has to come off and that you should apply to warranty relief from Superior (Millennium) or the engine builder. 

    Thanks for asking. 

    Please let me know what you decide.

    Steve

    Attachments:
    • 14FN0000-ASI-Valve-Safey-Poster_Final.pdf
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    CHARLIE MUELLER on October 14, 2024 at 10:07 am #22787

    Steve-

    Below are two borescope photos of my #2 exhaust valve and #3 cylinder wall at 9 o’clock position for my Dakota’s O540-J4A5D engine one year and 120 hours SMOH. Savvy points out early burning of the valve and corrosion pitting of the cylinder wall.  Do you agree? What should I do if anything.  As you might imagine I am not happy about this so soon after the overhaul.  The plane is in the shop for its first annual since the overhaul. These were new Millennium cylinders.   Many thanks for your expert opinions. 

    Charlie

    Attachments:
    • Cyl2exhaust-head91824.jpg
    • Cyl3wall-991824.jpg
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