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1967 cherokee 140 oil temp suddenly showing zero

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    jim on July 18, 2020 at 11:56 am #20053

    hi steve,

    thanks a million! today i checked exactly what you suggested. right off, i found the simplest problem to fix. the wire to the sender had broken just past the connector. probably age and oil filter changes contributed to its failure. i am working to install a new connector today.

    and thank you for the part #s. i’ll keep them handy for the inevitable part replacement i’ll need on a 1967 plane!

    … jim

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    STEVE on July 18, 2020 at 11:48 am #20052

    Hi Jim;
    The oil temperature circuit in you Cherokee is a very simple circuit. Aircraft power is picked off the main bus, then routed through the windings in the gauge. The voltage across the windings causes the needle in the gauge to move. From the gauge a wire is routed to the temperature sender, which is screwed into a bushing in the engine.
    Let’s start with the easy trouble shooting. Check to see that the wire to the sender in the engine is intact. Look for a loose wire, or a broken wire. If it does, simply repair the connection.
    If the connection looks good, then one possibility is that the sender has failed. Senders can be tested by removing it, and connecting the center wire connection to an ohm meter. The other lead from the ohm meter should be connected to the body of the sender. The resistance of the sender will change with the temperature it’s submerged in. If you have a soldering iron or even a wooden match, apply heat to the end of the sender. Does the resistance change with variations of temperature. If it does, then the sender is probably good.
    The part number of your sender is 462-046;
    The next check is to see if there is aircraft power on the gauge. This can be done with a voltmeter. The voltage should be the same as the voltage on the aircraft bus. If there’s no power, find out why.
    If there’s power on the gauge, and the wire between the gauge and sender is intact, then the gauge has failed. You can get the gauge repaired at:https://www.airpartsoflockhaven.com/cluster-gauges. I found a used one on eBay.
    Due to the original suppliers (A.C. and Stewart Warner) suspension of production, Piper issued Service Spares Letter 406. This letter notified suppliers that Piper was no longer sending the original parts; that the “cluster” gauges had to be replaced with gauge sets (gauge and sender) made by Rochester. The part number for the Rochester gauge is 87366-2; for the sender it’s 553-672. These replacements fit in the original spaces and use the same wire.
    I hope this guides you in solving your oil temperature problems.
    Happy Flying,
    Steve

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    jim on July 17, 2020 at 4:24 pm #20051

    hi all,

    i’m a 21 year owner of this cherokee, N9729W. i live east of cleveland, ohio. the last time i flew 29W the temp gauge read normally for an 80F day. that is, it was indicating in the middle of the green area. today, 2 days later, i noticed i had no oil temp reading at all for the duration of the 2.5 hr flight in slightly higher temps. the oil pressure was fine as usual and i had 5.5 to 6 qts of oil like the last flight. would also add that there has been no maintenance on the plane since i changed the oil and filter back in april 2020.

    what is the most likely cause for no oil temp reading?

    thanks,
    jim

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